Helping Kids Know They’re Enough Without Trophies - Wildly Wealthy Life

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3rd Jun 2025

Helping Kids Believe They’re Enough—Without the Trophies

What if your child’s confidence was never tied to achievement?

In this powerful solo episode, Kat shares the early roots of her struggle with self-worth and how that moment on a preschool stage shaped her inner world for decades. She unpacks the unspoken messages kids receive about achievement, performance, and identity—and why the work of instilling self-worth must begin early. This episode is a heartfelt call to parents, educators, and mentors to help kids understand that their value is not based on trophies, rankings, or grades—but on who they are at their core.

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00:00 Kat recalls her first memory of questioning her worth in a preschool speech contest

01:00 Reflections on what drives our early desire to “place first”

02:00 Exploring how performance is often mistaken for value

04:00 How schools reward achievement but not persistence or self-reflection

05:00 Social media and modern pressures to perform for validation

06:00 Kat’s experience teaching kids across disciplines—from dance to chess to piano

07:00 The one question all kids ask: “Am I good enough?”

08:00 How Kat’s mission is to use music as a tool for teaching self-worth

09:00 A call to adults: how we interact with kids matters deeply

10:00 Closing reflections: worth isn’t measured in wins—it’s lived through character

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It was in preschool.

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I entered a declamation contest.

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I memorized this poem.

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I think it was something about a goat.

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I can't remember exactly, but, but I just remember it was a declamation contest.

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I stood on stage, it was wearing a dress, and I delivered that poem.

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And you know when the awarding ceremony came, I won third place

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and I remember being a child and throwing a tantrum and it's cute

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'cause you're like five or six, right?

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Can you imagine being an adult and throwing a tantrum

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when you win Third place?

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Hey, my name is Kat.

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And I'm Lee.

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Wildly Wealthy Life.

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It's been a long time since I've recorded a solo episode, and I really

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hope that today's episode, uh, will speak to your heart today and maybe

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get you on a journey of really discovering your true self-worth.

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Um, this is a journey that I have been on myself for a very long time.

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I'm still on it.

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I think we all journey through self-worth, uh, whether we realize it

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or not, whether we accept it or not.

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We are all going through a journey of asking ourselves, are we enough?

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I. Right.

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Are we doing enough?

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Are we being enough?

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Are we who we're supposed to be?

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There's so many of those questions.

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Are we living to our fullest potential?

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Gosh, it's, it's crazy.

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But, um, I really want to share a story of the very first time

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I remember, uh, feeling like I'm never going to measure up.

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And this was in preschool.

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It's crazy that this was, when I, when I think about it.

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This story really came to mind because I was so young.

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I was about five or six years old at that time.

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I entered a declamation contest.

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I remember memorizing the poem, working so hard, practicing it, and finally

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I was on stage with this beautiful dress, um, delivering my poem and

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delivering it as confidently as I could.

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And then I won third place.

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And I remember throwing a huge tantrum because I only placed third.

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And my grandpa, you know, at that time picked me up and he said, um, it's okay.

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Uh, you still did your best.

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You, you still did great.

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And he whispered something along the lines of, um.

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I can't fully remember it, but something along the lines of, I

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think the judges made a mistake.

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Anyway, you're still the best you.

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You are better than the ones who placed first.

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And you know, of course I know he said that because he wanted me to

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feel better, but at the same time, I really felt like I. You know, looking

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back, did that make me feel better?

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Maybe, you know, but at the same time, like, okay, so nobody else

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saw that I was the best, just you.

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Like even the judges didn't see that I was the best, you know?

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And I don't know how we as a five or 6-year-old can

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comprehend that, you know, first.

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Place is first, best, second place is second best, and

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third place is third best.

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Because nobody in my family told me that, Hey, you know, if you're first

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place, that means you, you are the best.

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Nobody.

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It's just that somehow innately, I think as, as humans, we have

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this desire to achieve, right?

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We have this desire to do big things.

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We have this desire to live amazing lives.

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And I think somehow innately, uh, we know.

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That when we place, you know, third, like we feel a little smaller, looking

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back into our, you know, school system.

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I love school.

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I, I loved my journey in my school.

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Like every school I've been to growing up, like, you know, from my preschool

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to elementary, high school and college.

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I loved school, but there's definitely a gap in the way

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the school system is being ran.

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And a lot of that gap is because schools right, reward your performance.

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They don't reward persistence.

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Schools reward your answers if they're correct, you get good grades, but

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they don't reward, um, reflection.

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I. I think about being in sports my entire life.

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Like in school, I was in a volleyball team, a badminton team, chess and, and

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you know, uh, all these other sports.

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And you win first place when you score the highest right?

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Or in swimming, if you are the first and running when you're in

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the first, the judge will not.

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Give you first place just because you showed up on the day that you

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were sick and you pushed through.

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Right.

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Um, it's not about persistence.

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It's always been about your performance growing up.

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And so I think that we carry that as we get older and now enter social

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media and all that we do in social media is really portray the best.

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Parts of ourselves, right?

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And yes, there are times when people are a lot more vulnerable in social media,

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and they do show all the parts, the good, the bad, and the ugly, which is actually

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what really makes it beautiful, right?

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The, the parts that we feel are the not so worthy parts are, I think

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what really makes us beautiful.

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And so my work, I, I truly believe that for me personally, my life's

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calling has been to work with kids.

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I've worked with kids for so many years and, and realized that it really doesn't

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matter what I teach, whether I'm teaching dance or ariel or chess or, or now piano,

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it, it doesn't matter what I teach.

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Every child struggles with the same thing I. The question is, am I good enough?

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And that question, I think is the, the question that we all ask ourselves

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from the, from, from when we are little, all the way to we're adult.

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We may not know it that we're asking that we, we were little, but.

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You know, if you grew up with siblings, I'm sure you're probably always

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comparing yourself to your siblings.

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I grew up with a cousin that was very, very close to my age, and

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I always compared myself to her.

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I always wanted to be the best.

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I was an overachiever growing up, and so I really struggled with the fact

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that sometimes I don't place first.

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Right?

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And so, yeah, I just, you know, this is to me my life's work, and

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I'm so grateful that I get to.

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Do this through music because I really believe that music is

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such a beautiful gift to us.

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All right?

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Music is a universal language and so is movement.

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So I'm so glad that in my journey I've taught movement, I've taught

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dance, I've taught music, and, and now for me, music is just one of those.

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Beautiful things that I get to teach, but alongside that, I get to really

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help kids understand their self-worth.

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So yeah.

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I guess takeaway for today is maybe look back and remember when was the time that

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you first struggled with your self-worth?

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Maybe remember that specific instance and, and.

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That could maybe help you understand like your struggles of today.

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I know that it did for me, you know, personally understanding that.

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Wow, okay.

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It started very, very young for me and it carried on for my entire school life.

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And you know, if you're listening to this and, and you are a parent, and

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even if you are not a parent, like I'm not a parent, but I love working with

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kids and I love educating kids and so.

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And even if you're not an educator, right, you probably have kids in your life as

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an aunt, as an uncle, as a friend, right?

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You have friends that have kids, right?

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So how do you show up as an adult when you interact with kids?

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So that.

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The kids in your life, whether they are your own or they're not, right?

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The kids that you encounter in your life, start really believing in who

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they are, because I really think that this struggle with self-worth,

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you know, as I already shared in my story, it starts very young and.

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I think that we as adults can do our part in helping kids around us understand

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that what they do, right, the awards and the trophies and the grades and

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all of that, um, does not ever, ever.

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Measure who they are as people, and that their worth is always going to be

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tied to who they are, their heart, their character, not what they can achieve.

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And I think that if we, you know, just recognize that and do our best to help

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the kids around us believe in themselves a little bit more, I think that this

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world would be a much better place.

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So I hope that, um.

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