Episode 33

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22nd Oct 2024

Your 5 Step Ladder to a Wildly Wealthy Life

In this solo episode of Wildly Wealthy Life, Kat takes center stage to introduce her powerful framework, the "Wildly Wealthy Life Ladder." Over the next four episodes, Kat will walk listeners through the five essential steps that shaped her journey as an educator, entrepreneur, and entertainer. Today, Kat dives into the 5 steps: Frame, Aim, Claim, Game and Flame. With inspiring personal stories, Kat emphasizes the importance of mindset and curiosity in achieving a wildly wealthy life.

Tune in for actionable tips on how to cultivate a growth mindset, embrace curiosity, and start climbing your own ladder to success.

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00:00 Introduction - Kat begins by explaining the premise of this solo episode and what listeners can expect from the upcoming series on the Wildly Wealthy Life Ladder.

02:10 The First Step – Frame: Kat discusses the foundation of mindset, sharing a personal story of childhood abandonment and how she learned to shift her perspective. The "frame" of your life determines how you view yourself and the world.

07:08 The Second Step – Aim : Kat talks about the importance of curiosity and how it leads to learning and growth. She shares her experiences of overcoming fear in various disciplines, including stunt work and teaching piano.

11:19 The Third Step – Claim: Build your confidence. Once you’ve cultivated curiosity and learned new skills, the next step is to claim your confidence. This means applying what you’ve learned and putting your knowledge into practice.

15:25 The Fourth Step – Game: Step into the arena, this step is where you put your skills and mindset to the ultimate test by stepping into high-stakes situations. Like playing a sport, you can only improve and learn by engaging in real-world challenges.

19:04 The Fifth Step – Flame: Ignite your creativity, the final step is where you bring your unique flavor and creativity to everything you do. Your personal style and creativity set you apart from others and allow you to truly shine.

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Transcript
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Hey, it's Kat and I will be flying solo in today's episode.

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In fact, I will actually be flying solo for the next four episodes

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because I am taking the time to really share with you a framework that I

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call the Wildly Wealthy Life Ladder.

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It is a framework that That I sort of developed upon a lot of reflection and

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just really observing my own life and, uh, what has led me to be here today,

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uh, from everything I've done as an educator, as an entrepreneur, as an

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entertainer and everything in between.

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So I really hope that after today's episode, you also get a hold of what

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it means for you to have your own version of a wildly wealthy life.

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So stay tuned.

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Hey, my name is Kat and I'm Lee.

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And welcome to the Wildly Wealthy Life podcast.

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In this show, we explore the journey of what it means to live a truly

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exceptional and fulfilling life.

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Each episode focuses on how a foundation of brilliant minds and

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brave hearts nurtured through the arts leads to lifelong success.

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Get inspired with actionable tips to foster a growth mindset,

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leadership values, and creativity in children and adults, turning

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their potential into lasting contributions for their communities.

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We hope that you embrace the challenge to shift your perspective

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as we equip you and the next generation for a wildly wealthy life.

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Hey everyone.

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Welcome back.

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So I love ladders because I'm five feet tall and for my fellow shorties out there,

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it really helps when you have a two step footstool or a three to four step ladder

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to reach the cabinets in your kitchen.

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So ladders are great.

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And so when I was thinking of my framework, I thought about naming this

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the wildly wealthy life ladder because it's really, I feel like what has so

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It's been instrumental in helping me reach the goals that I want to reach.

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So if you think of a ladder, oh I already drew it over here.

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So for those of you who are listening on Spotify, you can't see the

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drawing, but if you're on YouTube then you obviously can see this.

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So my beautiful ladder over here, the very bottom step is actually the frame.

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And the frame for me is basically the foundation that you can control.

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It is where you're able to cultivate your mindset.

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I think that in life there's very, very little things that we can control.

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And one of the most important things that we can control is actually

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our foundation and our mindset.

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I think about how.

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We have no control over the family that we're born into.

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We have no control over the kind of parents that are going to race us.

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We have no control over the country that we are born into.

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We have no control over the status, the financial status of

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the family that we're born into.

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Um, there's so many things we just can't control.

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Right.

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And, and, you know, when I was younger, my parents left at a young

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age, uh, I was Seven when my parents left and they left for good reasons.

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They left because they wanted to go to the States to get a better job and send

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us money at home in the Philippines.

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And that was amazing.

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I'm so glad that they were able to do that and gave us a better future.

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However.

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There was still this abandonment issue that I felt as a child because

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no matter how much I understood that Okay, mom and dad left for my own

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good because this is them making that sacrifice to give me a better future

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I still cannot understand that in my tiny little brain, you know, seven year

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old brain that It was a good thing.

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Like I just, yeah, I know it theoretically that it's a good thing, but I don't

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really understand that it's a good thing in my mind and in my heart.

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It just hurt, right?

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Because your parents left, you're seven years old and you don't know

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how to cope with that until I got older and realized, Oh, wow, I

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have a lot of abandonment issues.

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So.

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I could have had let, you know, circumstances and all these other

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situations really affect the way I think, and of course it did, right, but I also

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knew how to, um, change my mindset.

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Did it come when I was little?

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I don't, I'm not really sure.

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I think that as a young child, I was just really interested in a lot of activities.

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And I think I just besieged myself with activities to really understand

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that I was hurting from the inside.

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Um, but as an adult, it all surfaced and it all came out.

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And so as an adult, I learned how to kind of, Shift my mindset and

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shift my perspective around that whole situation in my childhood.

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So, think of frame, alright?

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The frame is the frame of mind that you're in.

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And for me, a frame, right, like if you think of a picture frame, it is literally

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the contents, it frames the contents of the picture that's inside that frame.

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So if you're an artist, you usually have a frame for your art, right?

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And the smaller the frame, The more difficult it is to fit all of the drawings

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and everything in that frame, right?

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The bigger the frame, right, the more grand the artwork is.

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We were just recently in Paris and we went to the Louvre and I looked at all this art

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and they're just so friggin incredible.

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They're magnificent works of art.

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And the bigger it is, the more Ooh, just the grandness of it just

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takes your breath away, really.

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But then, of course, the smaller ones also have some intricacy to it.

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There's a beauty in that as well, right?

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But I'm not talking about really the size.

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I'm really talking about whether your frame is fixed.

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Or whether your frame is open and you're, you're open to learning.

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So for me, I think about the frame as again, it's everything that shapes your

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actions, your decisions, the way you see yourself, the way you see the world.

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And if your frame is always just one sided and it's a fixed frame,

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it's a fixed mindset, you're never going to be able to grow.

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Right, you're never going to be able to challenge the way you think and and

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maybe see things from other people's perspectives And so the most important

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part here is truly the frame I think that it actually is the thing that sets

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you up for success and sets you apart whether or not your next step is actually

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going to be A step that's going to give you an edge in this world or not and

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so It's so important to get that frame Your mindset your frame of mind, right?

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Because if not It is the one thing that's going to pull you down over and

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over and over again So my question for you on this first step Is what kind of

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picture are you painting in your frame?

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Is it a picture that is full of life full of possibilities?

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Vibrant joyful so much energy or is it a picture?

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That is full of doubt Regret blame full of unforgiveness, right?

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All these other things.

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What kind of picture are you painting in your frame?

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The second step in the ladder is aim and aim to me is where

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you channel your curiosity.

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And you know, once you have decided that I will be this person

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who will have a growth mindset.

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The next part here is really, Being curious having that childlike

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curiosity and always asking questions.

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What can I learn from this right and everything that you do in every life

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situation that you face ask yourself.

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What can I learn from this?

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Is there something that is Not to be missed in this particular situation

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because if I don't miss it this time the next time this happens again I

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will be more equipped and I will be stronger right and so for me, right?

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I think it boils down to not being afraid of looking stupid.

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Okay, when I was a kid at school I love to participate in school,

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but every single time, every single time, I'm not even kidding.

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Before I raised my hand, I am sweating.

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I'm afraid because I'm always afraid that I might say the wrong thing.

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I might pronounce something incorrectly.

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The wrong answer might come out.

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It might not come out.

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Well, even now when I do my episodes for the podcast, not just in this,

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but like in 2021 when we had the podcast, like it's, it's kind of

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hard sometimes, you know, like this is one of those things where you put

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yourself out there, you're talking and.

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You're like, well, hopefully people are listening and hopefully people

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find value in it, but I don't really know and am I even just Talking to

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someone and is this even making sense?

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And i'm afraid of putting my voice out there, right?

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And so at some point in my life, I just had to realize that if I

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keep Dimming my voice if I keep being afraid of speaking up, right?

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I'm never gonna be able to put myself out there to kind of

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test what I believe in, right?

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I think it's really important that you have a really great mindset.

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But then after that, well, how are you going to exercise that mindset?

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And to me exercising that mindset is actually going into curiosity and keep

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asking questions and And in putting yourself in situations where you're

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not afraid to stumble or fall and and learn like a child because children

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they They don't they don't they're not afraid to stumble and fall.

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They just ask questions They ask a ton of questions all the time and they're

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not afraid of looking stupid I remember when I first started really being serious

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about stunt work and I was training a lot on different things stunt wise

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from you know shooting to Wirework to All sorts of different stuff just like

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a basic fight choreography and I never had any martial arts background And I

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never had any gymnastics background.

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So for me training in a gym Where literally everyone is just like well

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the for the most part like everyone is so excellent like amazing tricker

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slippers fighters martial artists And I go in there and i'm like, hi.

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Um, I know nothing and I look at the Incredibly awkward doing some

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of these things, but I just went for it and it didn't matter that it

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looked awkward and it looks silly.

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I was just learning.

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And so aim for me is the part again where you start.

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Really nurturing that curiosity in you and so the question here for you in this step

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aim is What are you aiming to be curious about in this next stage in your life?

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Is there something that you've always wanted to kind of learn but you're just

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afraid right because It's something new like let's say it's public

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speaking and you're just so deathly afraid of public speaking, right?

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You're curious about it, but you're deathly afraid right

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again go back to frame, right?

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We have to kind of go back.

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Why are we in that mindset of just deathly afraid?

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Why are we stuck right finding out the layer beneath that and then?

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Just literally nipping that in the butt and just going for it.

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Just just kind of going for it and being curious and and

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doing it and maybe small doses.

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Maybe practice just putting a video and a one minute video out there and talking to

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the camera and just practicing it, right?

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So to me that is curiosity.

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The third step and the latter is claim.

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So claim is There's a rhyme and reason you guys frame and claim All right.

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So the the third step in the ladder is claim and this is where you really

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build your confidence Um to me This part right here is claiming what you know

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so you settled with your mindset and you said I will have a growth mindset

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and I will I will decide that i'm going to learn no matter what You went

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into curiosity you aim for curiosity.

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You aim for new learning you aim for new possibilities Please And then

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you go to claim it to me, claiming is kind of putting your stakes in

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the ground and saying, Hey, I just did all of this work and now I'm

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going to put it to test, right?

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By literally applying what you've learned.

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So for me what that looks like is, okay, in music theory for example, right?

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I could learn how to just read notes off of the page of a paper.

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But until I can actually play that and put the application behind it, I can't

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really call myself a piano player, right?

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You may be able to just, like, look at the thing and, and, and read the

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notes, but until you can play it, it is not really yours yet, right?

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To me, building confidence is really, truly about claiming the knowledge

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that you've learned, because they all say that knowledge is power,

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but then, Lately, people have really realized that knowledge is not power.

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Knowledge is just the potential for power.

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And so when you claim your territory and say, okay, I have been curious enough

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about this thing, I have looked into it.

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I've asked questions about it.

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I've learned about it.

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Now, let me actually go out there and speak publicly.

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Right?

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That is putting it in practice because that's the only way they

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are going to be able to claim what you've learned is and build the

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confidence is literally by application.

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Just another quick example on that one, because I feel like this is where, gosh,

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like I've just like learned so much.

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When I first started teaching piano online, 15 years with

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all different disciplines from literally chess to dance to aerial.

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And then I started teaching piano and.

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I was like, well, how much do I charge?

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Like, I don't know.

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And, you know, I looked at people like coaches and business coaches,

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and they always say that when you're starting charge, what you feel you

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can charge, charge, what you think.

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People would pay for, especially because you're just starting, you're new, right?

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So, I charged, like, in my opinion, like, I feel like very little for

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my piano lessons at that time.

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But then, because I built the confidence, right?

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I, I applied what I learned, I, I learned how to teach piano, and then I put it into

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application with my first set of students.

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And then, the more I did it, the more that I just built my confidence.

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And now I can really truly like there's no there's no doubt about it.

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I can claim that yes I am a piano teacher when I was first starting it was like,

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oh, sometimes i'm like embarrassed like I don't know I'm a piano teacher.

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I guess i'm a piano teacher Um, but but at that point right like once

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you've taught like over a hundred students you can you're like, yeah

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Oh, yeah, i'm a piano teacher now.

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Does that mean that there's no?

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No doubt sometimes in my mind or imposter syndrome.

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Oh, heck.

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Yeah, there's there's still those kind of kinds of moments, right?

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But the point is the moment you start building your confidence because

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of application The more that you actually really see your value, right?

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And so nowadays like Obviously the price that I was charging back then years

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ago in my piano lessons is definitely not the price that I charge now Because

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I know my worth I know what I bring to the table I've seen the results

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over and over again year after year.

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So that's why when I say, okay, this is what i'm worth This is what my rates are.

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I don't flinch, you know, I don't bat an eye because to me it's what I

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feel it's worth That is claiming your territory and your confidence The

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fourth step in the wealthy wealthy life ladder is game We're rhyming, you guys.

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Frame, aim, claim, game.

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That's me trying to be a DJ.

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All right.

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So, um, obviously I'm not.

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So, yeah, don't hate, okay?

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So, you have established yourself as someone with a growth mindset

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and you made a commitment that you are going to challenge every

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limiting belief that you have.

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You have aimed for curiosity.

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You have asked questions.

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You have aimed for learning.

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And then you claimed your confidence by putting into application what

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you've learned and now you get into the game and the game for me is where

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you step into the arena and actually test it at the higher stake, right?

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Where there's higher stakes.

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So, for example, to me, this is kind of like, like in sports, right?

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In the claim part, you're building your confidence by practicing.

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You're practicing your shots, you're practicing your dribbles, uh, you're

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practicing with your teammates, right?

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But until you actually play a game, With real opponents, you will really

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never know what you've got, right?

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It's not possible to know what you're made of until you actually step into the game.

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And so for me, game is where you challenge.

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Everything that you've learned.

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Um, for me, that's why piano recitals, when I teach,

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like, I think it's important.

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Like, like, yeah, it's, to me, it's not about like performance where like you

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have to be perfect, you have to show off.

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It's, it's none about that.

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It's just about putting like a higher stake to what you've learned and

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putting yourself out there because at the end of the day, I hope that we're.

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At least in my end, right?

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Like I really emphasize that I want my students to learn how

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to play music because music is meant to be shared with people.

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And if you can sit down and share your music to other people without

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fear of like, Oh, stumbling over your notes or getting scared, and this

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is something that I always Struggle with too by the way to this day.

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I still struggle with like, you know being perfect on the piano That's why

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I really teach I really go against it because I just don't think there's really

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such a thing on being like the perfect pianist It's really just about the joy

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that music brings and no matter if you stumble across the notes When you put

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yourself out there and you just play for people, there's magic that happens.

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And that's exactly when you put yourself in the game.

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When you play a game with actual opponents, magic happens.

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And not to mention, it is only in gameplay where you're able to

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look back and see, What did I do?

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Is there something that I could have done better?

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Is there something that could be tweaked in business talk?

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Right?

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Like for me, I'm currently relaunching, recreating my existing

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program into something else.

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Right.

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And what I have learned is literally once we launch, no matter how good the

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launches or how bad it is, if it's bad, good or bad, I'm not really wanting to

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label it as good as, or bad to me, you know, I have a set number of students

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that I would love to have enrolled into the launch, but like, If I don't reach

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that set of students, that is my goal, then all I have to do is keep doing

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the same thing, but tweak it and tweak it and refine it and tweak it, right?

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But it's all about putting yourself out there and actually getting into the

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game of, Because if you're not playing the game, how are you going to learn?

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So the question here for you is, uh, yeah, what games are you playing these days?

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Because, uh, I think that it's the truly one of the ways to

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learn so quickly, but it's also truly one of the most fun moments.

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I think that you get to create in your life is actually by Playing

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the game of life and going for it.

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So, the last step in this Wildly Wealthy Life ladder is Flame.

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Flame!

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Put yourself on fire!

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Flame is where you ignite your creativity.

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So, to me, right, all of these experiences Literally has

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your own flavor to it, right?

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The way you challenge your mindset has your own flavor to it.

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The way you ask questions has your own way of doing it.

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The way you build your confidence and practice what you've learned, the way

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you step into the arena and actually, you know, be in the game and test

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everything with it that you've learned.

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It's your own unique flavor.

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It's taken me a long, long time to get here, a long time to get here,

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but I realized that this whole time, you know, cause I've enrolled

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in so many business coaching, mindset training, all these things.

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And, and sometimes like we get into this thing, we're like,

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well, what's the magic sauce?

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What's the magic sauce?

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And maybe they're going to teach me something else.

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That's going to be better.

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You know, maybe someone is going to come along and say, Finally going to click

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right and because they're going to teach me something and yes, those are true But

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for the most part what really is true is that the magic sauce is you it's you

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Magic sauce is me magic sauce is you and I realized that again It's taking me a

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long time to get here But now you know when people come to me and for whatever

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reason they don't like me or or whatever Like I just realized people will just

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not like me because it's me And people will also like me because it's me.

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And it's exactly the same thing with business, right?

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Like if I, when I'm offering my program out there and people buy from me, it's

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because it's me, there's literally another piano teacher right online, but they

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will not buy from that person because they want to buy from me because it's me.

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Um, and it's the same thing the other way around, right?

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They will not enroll with me because they don't like me.

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So the magic sauce is you, and that is your creativity.

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And so creativity to me is kind of like your own way of seeing things

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your own perspective on things it's um Your own take and when you bring

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that flame when you bring that extra sauce, which is again already you Right

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to all of this It's literally what sets you apart from everyone else.

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And I do believe that everyone is unique and everyone is set apart.

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And we are all called to a very specific purpose.

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And, you know, there's billions of people out here in the world, and we're

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supposed to impact the people that is going to be our tribe that is going to

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actually respond to what you're sharing.

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And so to me, Yeah, flame is just that To me, it's the last step because

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it kind of encapsulates everything right it starts with your mind, right

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with your mind here where You really have to challenge your self limiting

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beliefs and then it also ends With yourself it ends with your secret sauce

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which again is You so I hope that you guys enjoyed this to recap, right?

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We have the five steps to a worldly wealthy life ladder You It's the frame.

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This is where you challenge your self limiting beliefs and decide

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that you will have a growth mindset.

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You will be that person that will always grow your mindset

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and expand your, your mind.

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Aim here is where you aim for curiosity and learning.

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You ask questions.

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You don't pretend that you know it all and don't be afraid of making mistakes.

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Claim here is where you put the information into action, right?

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With that, this is where you build confidence because.

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Like in piano, right?

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If I practice every day, um, I'm literally putting everything that I'm learning

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into action and I am building confidence.

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And after I, I've claimed my territory and I've built the confidence, I go

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into the arena and I play the game.

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Uh, the game is where there's higher stakes involved.

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And this is where you really get to challenge everything that

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you've learned and your mindset.

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it and the questions that you've asked.

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And then it's also where you get to improve because it's only when

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you play the game that you get to look back and check, well,

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what could I have done better?

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What can I tweak next time?

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What can I improve on?

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And the flame goes back to you where it is your magic sauce.

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This is where you spark the world with your own creativity.

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So.

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That's it.

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I hope you enjoyed that.

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Alright friends, that's a wrap on today's episode of Wildly Wealthy Life.

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Thanks for hanging out with us today.

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Go out there, live wildly, be wealthy in all the ways that matter to you.

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And we'll catch you on the next one.

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About the Podcast

Wildly Wealthy Life

Hey There!

We’re Lee and Kat, the voices behind the Wildly Wealthy Life podcast, where we dive into what it really means to live a fulfilling, extraordinary life—one built on mindset, leadership, and creativity.

Back in 2020, we launched the podcast with a focus on interviewing people who had either gained financial freedom or were well on their way. The common thread in every story? Intentional generosity. We shared real stories from people who are living with purpose and giving back.

We made it to 30 episodes, but life had other plans—between launching a new business, losing Lee’s dad, and navigating our own personal challenges, we decided to take a pause and regroup. The world was going through a lot, and so were we.

But even in the midst of all that, we stayed grounded in what matters most to us: living intentionally and generously. Our marriage started with nearly $100K in debt, but through persistence and hard work, we paid it off and went on to buy five properties with a total of 13 units. That journey tested our grit and tenacity, proving to us that no challenge is too great when you're driven by purpose and determination.

When we were ready to relaunch, we knew the focus needed to shift. Now, Wildly Wealthy Life isn’t just about financial freedom—it’s about how brilliant minds and brave hearts, fueled by creativity, a growth mindset, and strong leadership skills, truly lead to an extraordinary life.

As we navigate this journey, we find joy in the little things—like spending time with our three fur babies, King Boogie, Prince Goose, and Princess Smokey. We’ve fostered over 20 kittens, and while we’ve faced the heartache of struggling to have kids after 18 years of marriage, caring for these little furballs has brought us comfort and laughter during some challenging times.

A few other things that bring us joy are gaming, hiking, and all things martial arts for Lee, along with building everything from furniture to model planes. For Kat, it’s all about reading, playing the piano, and having fun with aerial arts. We’re also passionate travelers and have had the privilege of taking our families on wonderful trips around the world.

Our marriage, like any other, has had its ups and downs, but each experience has only deepened our belief that true wealth comes from living with purpose and positively impacting those around us.

We’re excited to bring that message to each episode of Wildly Wealthy Life. So, whether you’re tuning in for mindset shifts, leadership tips, or a creative spark, we hope to inspire you to live your own Wildly Wealthy Life.

To Your Wild Growth,
Lee and Kat